Early inCaptain America: Brave New World, Sam Wilson takes his pal Joaquin Torres to get some training.

At first Joaquin scoffs at the trainer chosen by Sam, a physically imposing, but decidedly older man.

But when Sam tells Joaquin the trainers name, Joaquin is overcome with awe.

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Does that respect mean that well see Isaiah finally suited up, joiningthe Avengersin a Captain America costume?

Isaiahs actor Carl Lumbly isnt too sure.

That was my first experience with spandex.

And I can say Ive been happy to live without spandex.

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Lumbly starred as Dr.

The materials now are probably more forgiving, but no, he laughs.

To be sure, Lumbly has earned the right to pass on putting on a costume.

He is a bonafide legend in the world of genre fiction.

Although his superhero bonafides cannot be disputed now, Lumbly admits he was slow to the genre.

I was not allowed to read comic books when I was young, he says.

I was told that they were not acceptable forms of literature and I love reading and I love books.

It hits people in the spot before they realize the shots been fired.

Its that power to slip hard truths past resisting audiences that drew Lumbly to theMCUin the first place.

And I took that shot.

It was very affecting for me, he says.

Stories about people who have sacrificed, people who have been betrayed, and people who keep going.

I felt that was my one edict, that Isaiahs story was truth.

Troubling as it is, Lumbly sees hope in Isaiahs story.

Hes simply talking about what happened, what he saw.

And I think that is something that a lot of people can relate to.

It talks about things like eighth dimensions, electrodes, and accelerator machines.

It just seemed so incredibly wild that there wasnt initially an audience.

But time has moved on and now its got quite a following.

It was out there on the fringes and we live in the fringes now.

What happens in the Marvel and DC world is mainstream to what was going on in the 80s.

Lumbly certainly sees value in that change.

I think it allows for a greater play of imagination.

And I think as people become more used to truth inside fantasy and spectacle, he observes.

We can represent things that people might not otherwise be able to hear.

Its all text, he explains.

Thats the instruction manual.

But you still have to make that piece of furniture functional.

To me, thats my work.

I think of myself as a workman.

Captain America: Brave New World is now available on digital streaming services.