Its been an incredible ride for us, Kurtzman tellsDen of Geekwhen we chat with him atSXSW 2024.

And yeah, it was an incredibly bumpy first year.

Kurtzmans referring tothe behind-the-scenes difficultiesthat plagued the shows first two seasons.

Sonequa Martin-Green as Michael Burnham in Star Trek: Discovery

But for someStar Trekfans, the problems withDiscoverygo beyond a troubled production.

Even as some of the more extreme elements of the show fell away (goodbye, weird new Klingons!

), fans still complained thatDiscoverywas still too dark in tone in later seasons.

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Even small, otherwise minor choices in seasons three and four featured unnecessary nastiness.

Its shit, you know?

he says, effectively soiling every cup of earl gray that Picard ever ordered.

I dont know that I would call it necessarily breezy, but it is a lot of fun.

Our heroes go on a quest.

Of course, such a display of emotion shouldnt come as a surprise.

In fact, its justified, given that season five is the end ofDiscovery.

For Martin-Green, the announcement charged her last shot with her co-stars.

This is our last moment and to know it and be in it together.

Star Trek: Discoveryseason 5 debuts on April 4 on Paramount+.